Wednesday, November 4th, 2009

Do you know who Eugene V. Debs is?

scottdman2003 asked:


Does this sound like somebody else we all know?

“Eugene V. Debs, as the new leader of the Socialist movement, quickly gained national recognition as a charismatic orator. He was often inflammatory and controversial, but also strikingly modest and inspiring. He once said, “I am not a Labor Leader; I do not want you to follow me or anyone else… You must use your heads as well as your hands, and get yourself out of your present condition.” Debs lent a great and powerful air to the revolution with his speaking. “There was almost a religious fervor to the movement, as in the eloquence of Debs”
No Smith:
He was jailed for obstructing the delivery of U.S. mail.

What do you think would happen to you for obstructing delivery of the U.S. mail? You think you’d get a lolly pop?
Smith:
Also, to you a fanatic is anyone enforcing the law. A little anarchist are we?
he was in jail for about year. Big woop!
The last time he was jailed was for creating a general fear of anarchism. Which of itself was over the top, but not unlike the liberal FDR confining hundreds of thousands of Japanese Americans in internment camps.

Personally, he asked for it.

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10 Responses to “Do you know who Eugene V. Debs is?”

Agent Smith Says:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:42 am

Don’t care. Debs was also imprisoned because of fanatics and zealots such as yourself.

Aunt Acid Says:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

I didn’t know who he is but I’m SURE he’s a “friend” of Obama.

sparkey789 Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 11:10 pm

yes, sounds like about 1000 people world wide right now. It’s funny how many people that description fits. Did you know he was Harvard educated? He also turned over a factory he owned to the workers at that factory. He was selfless

Mountain♥Wilderness Says:
November 10th, 2009 at 1:38 pm

Debs was a Democrat, Indiana legislator, and union organizer who became a socialist, then ran for Presient on the Social Democratic Party ticket.

Eugene Victor Debs (November 5, 1855 – October 20, 1926) was an American union leader, one of the founding members of the International Labor Union and the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW), as well as candidate for President of the United States as a member of the Social Democratic Party in 1900, and later as a member of the Socialist Party of America in 1904, 1908, 1912, and 1920. Through his presidential candidacies as well as his work with labor movements, Debs would eventually become one of the best-known Socialists in the United States.

In the early portions of his political career, Debs was a member of the Democratic Party of the United States. It was during this time that he was elected as a member of the Indiana General Assembly, which signaled the beginning of his career as a politician. After working with several smaller unions including the Brotherhood of Locomotive Firemen, Debs was instrumental in the founding of the American Railway Union, the nation’s first industrial union. As a member of the ARU, Debs was involved and later imprisoned for his part in the famed Pullman Strike, when workers struck the Pullman Palace Car Company over a pay cut. The effects of the strike resulted in President Grover Cleveland calling in members of the United States Army into Chicago, Illinois, which led to Debs’ arrest.

Debs’ political views turned to Socialism after he read the works of Karl Marx. Debs grew to be one of the most influential Socialists, the notoriety helping Debs to garner five nominations for president. During the latter part of his life, Debs was imprisoned once more after being arrested and convicted under the Espionage Act of 1917 during the First Red Scare for speaking against American involvement in World War I. He was later pardoned by President Warren G. Harding, and died not long after being admitted to a sanitarium.

Joshua H Says:
November 13th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

Of course I know. He’s a famous historical figure, besides which my late grandfather, who was active in the union movement, knew him. I’m also far too smart to fall for obvious fallacies of argument, such as the one you’ve made here, which is of the type “Joe has brown hair, John has brown hair, joe is a murderer, therefore John is a murderer.”

GJL Says:
November 13th, 2009 at 3:20 pm

Debs was a great man. What’s your point. Try reading some actual history, not the claptrap they put in high school textbooks.

Carls Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 12:31 pm

Yes, I’ve heard of him.

grob Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 9:48 am

Yes, I do.

And you are being disingenuous by stating that he was jailed for obstructing delivery of the U. S. mail.

No. He doesn’t sound like someone I know. The person I know will be President on Jan 20, 2009.

parkermbg Says:
November 17th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

an influential part of the harlem Renaissance. eloquent and not afraid to speak his mind (even if his thoughts were wildly unpopular with the paranoid right). have you really read his works, or just the WHITEWASHED history book accounts?
learn a lesson from history, many people were afraid of this mans thinking, yet the nation did not fold.

Mr. Bad Day the Plumber Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 8:12 am

I bet you want us to realize the similarities between Debs and our President-Elect, Barack Obama.

But honestly? The quotes you have remind me a lot more of Talk-Radio and Fox News, particularly Neal Boortz and Bill O’Reilly.

Of course, the number of uncharismatic, boastful and uninspiring leaders that made any difference at all is pretty small.

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